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Honestly? Yeah. There's no other ending in any other arc that takes such a colossal shit on everything the series stands for the way Wano did with Hiyori Hitler edu-taining the masses that it's okay to commit genocide. No one is born evil right? Well according to Wano, Orochi was born evil...

Sawyer7mage made a good breakdown about why this arc sucks

Kazekage rescue didn't turn a noteworthy character into a complete idiot who helped the villain almost kill everyone else. And it didn't give a character an unnecessary backstory to add to the one they already had, which in and of itself was damn near perfect.

Bullshit, there are no double standards, you just suck at reading comprehension. Like I said, the 4th war is NEVER brought up the Akatsuki, because by the time it is the group is practically dead with litlle to no members left. Up until the end of the pain arc, Pein/Nagato is the leader, after...

Lmao bro why are YOU lying, the 4th War was brought up in 5 Kage Summit Arc, not at the start of Shippuden. Up until the end of the Pein arc, no one, reader nor character knew about a War happening, everyone thought the Akatsuki & the masked man were endgame. Kaido has been ranting & raving...

The 4th Great Ninja War wasn't built up after a decade of hype, and it fuck-up after it's opening and flashback portions like Wano did. Wano is the culmination of so much that has happened and it encapsulates everything wrong the Post Timeskip of One Piece.

"One Piece has the best power ceiling" my ass lol

where's the option for "all of the above and more"?

As others have explained, it isn't that he's relying on others that is the problem - in fact one could argue that this a culmination of his character arc throughout the series since he's had self-worth issues. The problem is HOW, WHEN & WHERE he decides to ask for help. Sanji had every...

Luffy is pretty much an honorary saiyan at this point with how many zenkai boosts he gets

Pretty sure folks wouldn't have anything to say about it if... Oh, I don't know... Oda didn't provide one. People didn't give a shit about other villains getting one because Oda didn't tease them with one with his typical stupid attempt at Setup & Payoff. The flashback is here, and people are...

Buddy, you dismissing my points doesn't Not make my point better, especially when I'm just trying to elaborate on the problem. No one is arguing that Luffy has/hasn't fought & won in CC, the issue is that Oda hyped up an already hyped-up fight even further with by setting up an idiotic...

I'm fairly I understand the quote perfectly since it's not really that hard for anyone to understand. Neither of you, as well as others, seem to get the point of why it's still a fuck-up and your responses are pretty evident of that, so I'll elaborate whilst still hoping that this isn't the end...

People still defend this shit are being stupid. Masquerading a punch with new power ups still makes it a punch.

Lmao indeed it did. Came across looking for this quote by Oda and just watched it flourish thanks to the latest chapter.

Bruh how is this any different from DBZ bullshit power levels. All this does is show how Haki is ruining OP fights

The only thing, and I really do mean Only thing of note was that Oda had Kaido clear up whether or not Luffy was still Luffy, which this community can't even decide whether or not that shit was necessary. The real issue is in the fire subplot, why? Because lets be real here, what did the fire...

And thus he needed to waste chapter clearing up something he could have cleared two chapters ago lmao, either he is indeed looking out for the kiddies or he & his fanboys are hella insecure about this dogshit "plot twist".

Lmao yall are so hilariously stupid about this, if it was so obvious from the start then why the hell did the AUTHOR of this manga feel the need to waste a chapter clearing it up?