General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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The next crew member is a huge mystery that we still do not know. While we wait for the end of Egghead, I want to focus on the Strawhat Grand Fleet.
Gomu Grand Fleet 5600 members
1) Cavendish 75 members
2) Bartolomeo 56 members
3) Sai 960 (~1000) members
4) Ideo 4 members
5) Leo 200 members
6) Hajrudin 5 members
7) Orlumbus 4300 members
The current fleet has the 56 pun in its fleet name, Bartolomeo's 56 members in the 2nd division, and the 56 ships in Orlumbus' 7th division. The fleet is bound to grow but if it did so it could potentially ruin the puns which I doubt Oda would do.
Gomu Gomu Grand Fleet 5656 members
0) Weevil (WB+16=17 members, Ceremony)
1) Cavendish 75 members
2) Bartolomeo 56 members
3) Sai 960 (~1000) members
4) Ideo 4 members
5) Leo 200 members
6) Hajrudin 5 members
7) Orlumbus 4300 members
8) Bellamy (39 ppl, Cover Story, Vivre)
As a template, I'm adding Weevil and Bellamy. For Weevil, he wants a father figure and who better than Luffy who had 7 pirates pledge and drink a Son's Sake Cup Ceremony. The WB Pirates had 16 divisions which would add to 5656 if you have Sai's 3rd division as 1000. Bellamy was there at the Sake Ceremony and admitted when fighting Luffy he followed the wrong person. This doubles the pun in the fleet and leaves some room for growth. Plus Luffy's moves start off as Gomu Gomu no... so he can yell Gomu Gomu no Grand Fleet!!
Gomu ×3 Grand Fleet 565656 members
0) Weevil 17 members
1) Cavendish 10575 members
2) Bartolomeo 10556 members
3) Sai 10960 members
4) Ideo 10000 members
5) Leo 9200 members
6) Hajrudin 11 members
7) Orlumbus 504300 members
8) Bellamy 10037 members
Now I believe 5656 members is not enough real growth for the fleet. Adding 40-56 members in 7+ divisions is not significant growth. So instead of a double pun, what about a triple pun in Gomu Gomu Gomu Grand Fleet? This would be beyond epic yet I don't think Luffy will have over half a million fleet members. Seems improbable. Look at the template at how many members could be in the each division!!!
This is puzzling. Hmm...what about modifying the pun to represent Luffy?
Gomu Hito Grand Fleet
Gomu = 56
Gomu = Rubber
Hito = 110
Hito = Human
so...
Rubber Human Grand Fleet
56,110 members
A substantial growth of the fleet yet not outrageous that it is more than half a million members. And there are potential members that we have seen through the Grand Line.
1) Fish-Men freed slaves
2) Punk Hazard frozen prisoners
3) Dressrosa Remnants not in Fleet
4) Jupposui = 10 Treasures in 3rd division
5) WCI Book Prisoners
6) Giant Warrior Pirates
7) etc...
Gomu Grand Fleet 5600 members
1) Cavendish 75 members
2) Bartolomeo 56 members
3) Sai 960 (~1000) members
4) Ideo 4 members
5) Leo 200 members
6) Hajrudin 5 members
7) Orlumbus 4300 members
The current fleet has the 56 pun in its fleet name, Bartolomeo's 56 members in the 2nd division, and the 56 ships in Orlumbus' 7th division. The fleet is bound to grow but if it did so it could potentially ruin the puns which I doubt Oda would do.
Gomu Gomu Grand Fleet 5656 members
0) Weevil (WB+16=17 members, Ceremony)
1) Cavendish 75 members
2) Bartolomeo 56 members
3) Sai 960 (~1000) members
4) Ideo 4 members
5) Leo 200 members
6) Hajrudin 5 members
7) Orlumbus 4300 members
8) Bellamy (39 ppl, Cover Story, Vivre)
As a template, I'm adding Weevil and Bellamy. For Weevil, he wants a father figure and who better than Luffy who had 7 pirates pledge and drink a Son's Sake Cup Ceremony. The WB Pirates had 16 divisions which would add to 5656 if you have Sai's 3rd division as 1000. Bellamy was there at the Sake Ceremony and admitted when fighting Luffy he followed the wrong person. This doubles the pun in the fleet and leaves some room for growth. Plus Luffy's moves start off as Gomu Gomu no... so he can yell Gomu Gomu no Grand Fleet!!
Gomu ×3 Grand Fleet 565656 members
0) Weevil 17 members
1) Cavendish 10575 members
2) Bartolomeo 10556 members
3) Sai 10960 members
4) Ideo 10000 members
5) Leo 9200 members
6) Hajrudin 11 members
7) Orlumbus 504300 members
8) Bellamy 10037 members
Now I believe 5656 members is not enough real growth for the fleet. Adding 40-56 members in 7+ divisions is not significant growth. So instead of a double pun, what about a triple pun in Gomu Gomu Gomu Grand Fleet? This would be beyond epic yet I don't think Luffy will have over half a million fleet members. Seems improbable. Look at the template at how many members could be in the each division!!!
This is puzzling. Hmm...what about modifying the pun to represent Luffy?
Gomu Hito Grand Fleet
Gomu = 56
Gomu = Rubber
Hito = 110
Hito = Human
so...
Rubber Human Grand Fleet
56,110 members
A substantial growth of the fleet yet not outrageous that it is more than half a million members. And there are potential members that we have seen through the Grand Line.
1) Fish-Men freed slaves
2) Punk Hazard frozen prisoners
3) Dressrosa Remnants not in Fleet
4) Jupposui = 10 Treasures in 3rd division
5) WCI Book Prisoners
6) Giant Warrior Pirates
7) etc...
solid theory! I’m in 
@Mr. Reloaded Why am I not surprised you have the biggest entry on this list 
@Mr. Reloaded Why am I not surprised you have the biggest entry on this list
It is the act of admitting they were wrong that is important.
I think, Yamato is the opposite of Lucci. But I also think that there is only going to be one more SHP. ;)
Now, look at this shameful, unrestrained heap of human excess!
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I think, Yamato is the opposite of Lucci. But I also think that there is only going to be one more SHP. ;)
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It's like a compulsion. I can't get away from bets
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What about the giants ?
If they go to Elbaf, Bonney and her Dad could seek asylum there.
The Cat Pirates and the strawhat are two completely different crew with two different type of narration. The Cat pirates are literally meant to depict a failed crew where the Strawhat are meant to set the example. PLUS, the entire narration of One Piece and the strawhat is centered around the notion of adventure.
While you can have an adventure one time while staying on the ship, you can expect Oda to write a character that will stay while the others are gone. And the moment a character is gone, its not a guardian anymore, its a fighter. Proof is, Luffy wrecked the ship of the cat pirates while they were gone fighting Zoro. Literally.
There is no way to get around the notion: If you want a guardian in the strawhat, you need to create a power that allow said guardians to either have a way to guard the ship indefinitely (camera like) and teleport them in case of problem or to be able to split them in two. But the "protection power" must be relevant and not just a den den mushi... again, the role of the character must echo the entire journey and characterisation of the character.
I don't care about definition. If your "guardian" leave the ship 5 seconds and the ship is attacked, then is a BAD guardian. Period.
The will inheritence in not a physical thing, its metaphorical mate.
That would be a start yes.
No one. That's literally the point. Pedro and her pupil Carrot are literally the only non strawhat to have occupied the role of Look out and Carrot, of sentry.
Now for the sentry part, this is not obvious. And granted, its debatable. The point here is this one: How do you make the post of lookout shine through combat ? Well.. you really can't, you are forced to "extend" the post to the environment.
Well, that's what Oda did with Carrot two times :
- First when she was in a lookout post guarding the entry of Mokomo and she left the post to attack Zoro
- Second, When she left her post during the Sulong transformation to defeat Daifuku's fleet.
I explain this post and its narration more in detail here:
https://carrotfornakama.wixsite.com/anyonefornakama/post/carrot-the-sentry
The point of sentry is that it include 1 job and 1 action in a single post:
- The action of look out
- The action of sentinelle
What you need to understand is that this "position" on the Sunny and in combat, is the direct continuation of Carrot's characterization. Oda didn't put Carrot at this post for no reasons. Everything in Carrot's journey and this position are linked together.
This is why Carrot as a sentry is still, to this day, very pertinent while a ship gard is not.
Possible.. but remember, she spent a long time as a captain.. so this wouldn't be very coherent.
A bit convoluted but I don't hate the idea. Its actually sweat.
My system is flawed either way. I talked about it last week. My system can't be seen as a prediction system anymore, but as a road map. (meaning that everything noted in Golden Rules and Pillars will happen, its just not possible to predict how. For that we need to check for something else : The potential of the characters.
If they go to Elbaf, Bonney and her Dad could seek asylum there.
The Cat Pirates and the strawhat are two completely different crew with two different type of narration. The Cat pirates are literally meant to depict a failed crew where the Strawhat are meant to set the example. PLUS, the entire narration of One Piece and the strawhat is centered around the notion of adventure.
While you can have an adventure one time while staying on the ship, you can expect Oda to write a character that will stay while the others are gone. And the moment a character is gone, its not a guardian anymore, its a fighter. Proof is, Luffy wrecked the ship of the cat pirates while they were gone fighting Zoro. Literally.
There is no way to get around the notion: If you want a guardian in the strawhat, you need to create a power that allow said guardians to either have a way to guard the ship indefinitely (camera like) and teleport them in case of problem or to be able to split them in two. But the "protection power" must be relevant and not just a den den mushi... again, the role of the character must echo the entire journey and characterisation of the character.
I don't care about definition. If your "guardian" leave the ship 5 seconds and the ship is attacked, then is a BAD guardian. Period.
The will inheritence in not a physical thing, its metaphorical mate.
That would be a start yes.
No one. That's literally the point. Pedro and her pupil Carrot are literally the only non strawhat to have occupied the role of Look out and Carrot, of sentry.
Now for the sentry part, this is not obvious. And granted, its debatable. The point here is this one: How do you make the post of lookout shine through combat ? Well.. you really can't, you are forced to "extend" the post to the environment.
Well, that's what Oda did with Carrot two times :
- First when she was in a lookout post guarding the entry of Mokomo and she left the post to attack Zoro
- Second, When she left her post during the Sulong transformation to defeat Daifuku's fleet.
I explain this post and its narration more in detail here:
https://carrotfornakama.wixsite.com/anyonefornakama/post/carrot-the-sentry
The point of sentry is that it include 1 job and 1 action in a single post:
- The action of look out
- The action of sentinelle
What you need to understand is that this "position" on the Sunny and in combat, is the direct continuation of Carrot's characterization. Oda didn't put Carrot at this post for no reasons. Everything in Carrot's journey and this position are linked together.
This is why Carrot as a sentry is still, to this day, very pertinent while a ship gard is not.
Possible.. but remember, she spent a long time as a captain.. so this wouldn't be very coherent.
A bit convoluted but I don't hate the idea. Its actually sweat.
My system is flawed either way. I talked about it last week. My system can't be seen as a prediction system anymore, but as a road map. (meaning that everything noted in Golden Rules and Pillars will happen, its just not possible to predict how. For that we need to check for something else : The potential of the characters.
